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070 Dating: Do They Apologize?

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INTRODUCTION

Welcome to Relationship Helpers!  If you are joining us for the first time today, you are catching us in the midst of our dating series, “Eight Warning Signs You Might Need to Break Up.”  Today we discuss if your significant other apologizes and changes their behavior after their apology. Your hosts, Vincent and Laura, are marriage therapists and have been married thirteen years.

A THERAPIST WITH BAD COMMUNICATION CAUGHT

Laura begins with a situation that happened just last night.  Vincent arrived home after each of them had a L-O-N-G day.  He greets Laura with a hurried, Hi, I love you. DID YOU GET THE MAIL?” Laura was upset by his obvious agenda. 

It seemed more important to ask her about the mail than to wish her a warm, affectionate greeting. Vincent explains that there had been a few evenings where the garage door was left open because he had forgotten to shut it because Laura had already gotten the mail, and that was why he greeted her the way he did. 

Laura encourages Vincent to consider how he would have felt if he were in her shoes.  Vincent is able to reflect how disingenuous the greeting would sound to him. 

Even though the Relationship Helpers are marriage therapists, they still have to work on communication—especially in moments where they are tired! Vincent notes how we addressed the situation last night and how because we are able to communicate our feelings, it did not become a cause for resentment later. 

TROUBLE THINKING UP OFFENSES

In coming up with this episode, Vincent and Laura had trouble coming up with situations where they had offenses against one another because they have become adept at communicating well when their feelings have been hurt. This means a lot of conflict resolution skills have been acquired. 

It has not happened overnight, however.  If you had interviewed them earlier in their marriage, it would be a totally different story. You can overcome conflict by learning how to communicate more clearly. 

Do They Apologize?

The ability to apologize and change behavior after the offense; to improve interactions later, is important.  Is your mate FAT (Faithful, Attentive, Teachable)?  This is an old acronym about how to be a good disciple, but this also makes a good spouse.

DO THEY HAVE A GOOD SELF-ASSESSMENT BAROMETER?

Self-Assessment Barometer

Laura mentions how there has been a shift in focus by educators and parents towards self-esteem in children and how that it has backfired. It’s created a false sense of self. Rather than improving character, it has created a few generations of people lacking in empathy. 

As a result, we have a large population of people unable to be in healthy relationships. Kids grow into adults who have not been given a measured sense of reality. They’ve not been given opportunities to learn from failure.

Instead of always praising them, they need healthy, constructive criticism so that they can learn to measure themselves, rather than thinking they are the greatest at everything they do. (Say bye-bye to participation trophies!)  Then they will learn how to accurately assess themselves, having developed a barometer for their performance and abilities.

STEPS OF AN APOLOGY

Steps of an Apology

How does this pertain to apologizing?  When you are able to be self-critical in a non-judgmental way, you’re able to 1.) recognize when you’ve hurt someone, 2.) accept it, 3.) acknowledge it, 4.) be direct with the person you’ve hurt, 5.) explain how you’ve done it, and then 6.) show them how you’re going to change so it does not happen again.

These different components of an apology get lost in someone who has not learned to accept their failures and mistakes. 

Why Don’t People Apologize?

PRIDE

Pride

Pride— It can be particularly difficult for men to admit they are wrong.  They are afraid they will lose respect. Men really value respect. Men have a fear of being controlled. They feel like they have to be “big decision-maker”, not asking for help as should. (Think the man who won’t ask for directions.) 

It is difficult for women to admit they are wrong because may feel that they are losing control. They may be afraid of being “used.”

Another Therapist In The Wrong

Vincent references the book “Making Magnificent Marriages” by Dr. Jared Pingleton.  In it, Dr. Pingleton describes a time where he is watching a baseball game on tv. His wife approaches him and begins to talk. She is upset as he did not appear to hear her (he did not look at her while she was talking.)  Afterwards, Dr. Pingleton told her what she said verbatim.  During the next game, he had to prove a point to her.  He put two tvs together and watched two games at once.  He kept box score tallies up for both games at the same time to show her he was able to pay attention to two things at once.  

Ladies hearing this will find this absurd and can understand Ms. Pingleton’s continued dismay. Dr. Pingleton didn’t get the point—he obviously does now, as he is a couple’s therapist and is an expert on communication and sees the errors of his ways!  In other words, he learned that his body language needed to be validating to her. First, he had to get past his pride that he could prove to her that he could listen to her and a baseball game at the same time. 

Loss Of Respect?

For men, apologizing can really feel like a loss of respect.  For women, however, apologizing feels like they are losing control.  Women have a tendency to be more on top of keeping home-life together, and don’t like it if they don’t seem “put together.” They may take it to heart, feeling that they are a bad mother or bad wife. 

Another reason some women struggle with apologizing is that they have experienced trauma or have been “burned” in other relationships.  Sometimes this means they hide behind this tough facade to hide any sense of vulnerability.

WOMEN NEED TO HEAR “I’M SORRY.”

Women Need To Hear “I’m sorry”

“Women need to hear “I’m sorry.” They are wired to need “peace” in the relationship. They need resolution between parties.  There is a biological difference in how women are “wired.” Generally speaking, men are built with greater upper body strength and larger statures. 

In the Bible it says that violent men take by force. Men have a tendency to do more damage. However, Dr. Jordan Petersen says that women are more likely to be aggressive in relationships.  When a man is aggressive, it’s likely to be more damaging.

World Is More Dangerous For Women

The world is more dangerous for women.  Laura describes a message that went viral recently on social media.  A sociologist stood in front of a white board and asked a large room full of men what they do to avoid getting sexually assaulted.  The room was quite for a moment. One person jokingly stated, “Don’t go to prison.” That was their only answer. 

The sociologist asked the same question to a room full of women, and the women completely filled his white board up with things women do to prevent sexual assault. Women face the threats of pregnancy and many times the results of STDs are more damaging to women. 

Female Nervous Systems Not Adapted For Women, But For Babies

Further, women’s nervous systems are adapted to the survival of babies. it’s meant to help them communicate with the infant. Women are sensitive to environmental threats in order to care and protect children. Women are the emotional barometers of relationships. They need their partners to be vulnerable. 

OVER-APOLOGIZE

Some people “over-apologize”. It can be received much like the “Boy Who Cried Wolf.”

Apology Worn Out

The value of the apology lessens when someone apologizes too much.  Over-apologizing may be a habit, but to the listener, resentment builds because these apologies seem meaningless.

Consider Other’s View Point

They need to consider how the other person feels about hearing so many apologies. In other words, they need to put themselves in the shoes of the person who hears all of these apologies.  Also, they need to re-evaluate their apologies based on whether they are actually changing their behavior after the apology.  

CONFLICT RESOLUTION

Conflict Resolution

Conflict Resolution—If you’re dating someone who is unable to apologize and/or unable to change their behavior after an apology, it is a predictor that the future of your relationship is troubled.

Understanding Where They Are Right & Where They Are Wrong

If they apologize, they can recognize their part in the conflict. Maybe the fact was right, but method of presenting wrong. A “right” apology means changed behavior. 

Address The Concern

If there is a lack of apology and/or changed behavior, it will be important to address it.  Starting a conversation with “I’ve noticed that when I tell you that you’ve said something to hurt my feelings you don’t change that…” 

How your partner responds to this conversation could tell you how teachable they are—how willing they are to bend.  Ask yourself “Should I be in a relationship with a person who is unwilling to be in a healthy relationship?” 

Be ready to say I’m not ready to make this a committed relationship until changes are made. Be prepared for your mate to continue to make mistakes after apologies. Having the conversation about apologies and changed behaviors is an ongoing thing. It is not something that happens once and is perfected. 

CONCLUSION

If you’re dating or a parent anticipating the dating years for your child, we hope that you’ve gained some new tips and insights into this very important topic. Be sure to check into our next episode when we discuss when your boyfriend or girlfriend excessively checks up on you.

069 Dating: How Are Their Friendships?

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Songs have been written about them, tv shows have been named after them;  we’re talking about friends. Vincent’s teenage niece watches “Friends” and his seventy-nine year old father watches it, too.  There are some timeless truths to the show.  It speaks to relationships and who we are as people.

This is the 5th episode in our series 8 Warning Signs That You Might Need To Break Up. Today we dive into what a person’s friendships say about who they are as a person, and if these relationships are good indicators that they would be good to date.

What are their friendships like?  

What Are the Warning Signs of Unhealthy Relationships?

It is important to know how your significant other relates to friends, as this behavior could translate to how they relate and interact with you. 

1. No friends
No Friends

If they don’t have friends, that’s a big concern. They will rely solely on you to get all of their emotional and social needs met, which is very unbalanced.  That’s a terrible burden to put on a mate. Having no friends is also an indicator of a lack of social skills.

In more extreme instances, a lack of friends could mean that the person suffers from a personality disorder, such as Anti-social Personality Disorder.  If that’s the case, it may be nearly impossible to be in a relationship with this person. Beware of someone who refuses to see that they have issues or problems.  People with personality disorders rarely reach out for help because they do not see that they have problems—everyone else is the problem, not them.

In less severe situations, you may want to address the what you are seeing, with sensitivity.  Begin with, “I’ve noticed that you avoid being in social situations…” rather than “You” statements. Sometimes someone struggling with a trauma background engage in self-protection behaviors that prevent them from seeking social situations. 

2. They are a fair weather friend.
Fair Weather Friends

What does this say about how they will be with you?  It’s a strong indicator that they are disloyal, and will run away when things are difficult. Consider that this person could be the same person uttering “in sickness and in health” during their wedding vows.  Does their behavior reflect that they would follow through with these vows?

3. They are a people-pleaser friend (they attract toxic people).

This one is subtle and many people trip up on it. People-pleasers tend to attract toxic people.  The people-pleaser gives and gives and gives and never says ‘no’.  They attract needy people, users, who take advantage of them. They feel, guilt, however, if they do not provide for the toxic person’sdemands.  Then they feel resentment for how their own needs aren’t being met.   

If you’re dating a people-pleaser, they may not have the time to give your relationship as they are too busy tending to other peoples’ toxicities.  They cannot provide you a healthy, balanced amount of time and attention as they are too busy not saying ‘no’ to others who drain their emotional energy. Their ability to be “present” with you will be lacking. 

4. Only have short-term friendships.
Short-Term Friendships

This person could get too close too quick and then conflict happens and they run or push them away. Many times those suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder are charismatic, drawing people, towards them, but do not have the ability to maintain relationships as they are not able to be supportive of others. 

Vincent suggests being especially wary of someone who has lived in the same area for a long time and yet they have only had short-term friendships. What happened to the relationships from ten years ago?  Why didn’t those last if you didn’t move?

Healthy

1. Supportive of their friends and their friends are supportive of them—can share with each other.
Supportive Friends

This person is able to be excited for other people’s good news, but also share concerns.  They are able to celebrate through the good times, and support during the difficult times. This person shows that they care, whether that is being there during a funeral, attending a shower, or bringing food during a difficult time.

2. Long-term friendships.

Having long-term friendships is a good indication of stability and healthy relationships. This means that they have stuck with their friend through the good and bad times. It shows loyalty.

3. Spend balanced amount of time with friends (positive, not all negative).
Long-Term Friendships

Their priorities may be in question if there is an imbalance in time spent with friends.  This means that their time spent with friends is not continually infringing on family time. It is healthy to set aside time to hang out with friends, but it should be planned and in accordance with the family needs.

The time spent with friends should include positive and negative moments. This means that there are times that you hang out and have a good time, but also that you comfort them and attend the funeral of their parents or someone close to them when appropriate.

4. Different types of friends—from different spheres/groups.
Friends From Different Spheres

If someone has friends in various places, it is a good indication that they are good at making friends and could possibly have a healthy social life.  As a side note, Laura mentions how bullying has had a lot of attention lately, and that much of it stems from an important missing factor:  friends in various places.  Children are less likely to be bullied when they have friends in multiple settings.  They are more well-rounded.

5. Able to resolve conflict.
Forgiving and Resolving Conflict

If they are able to have differing opinions, discuss it, and come out on the other side and still be friends, it is a great indication that the person you are dating has healthy conflict resolution skills.  This doesn’t mean you avoid conflict, but that you are able to talk it through. 

Conclusion

Today’s episode encourages you to examine your significant other’s relationships with others.  How they relate to others is a pretty strong indication of how they will relate to you as a future spouse.  Hopefully today’s topic also stirred up some questions you may need to ask yourself about you and your own friendships. 

We hope you’ve enjoyed today’s episode, the fifth part in an eight part series “Eight Warning Signs You May Need to Break Up.” 

068 Dating: How Is Their Relationship With Their Family?

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Happy Holidays from Relationship Helpers!  Speaking of the holidays, this is the time of year where family gets together the most. 

If you are dating, this could be an interesting and yet informative time in your relationship.  You may get a window into your significant other’s relationship with their family during this season.  This is the 4th episode in our series 8 Warning Signs That You Might Need To Break Up. Today, we offer some important points to ponder as you see your significant other interact or not interact with family.

If the holiday season brings about panic and night sweats, be sure to check out episode 013 “Stress-Free Holiday” where we give you tons of tips on taking the sweat out of the holidays. It’s not dating-related specifically, but is about managing family conflict, time management, and holiday planning. You’ll also find a FREE printable PDF on our website that will give you lots of help in de-stressing the holidays.

How Your Significant Other Gets Along With Their Family

1. AVOIDANT

Does Your Significant Other Avoid Their Family?

When your significant other avoids family, it is not necessarily bad.  For instance, some people choose to distance themselves from family because they have created boundaries to protect themselves from a toxic, dysfunctional family.

It is important, however, that these boundaries have been communicated, rather than just avoiding the family.  If communicated, boundaries are healthy; otherwise avoiding someone is more like a wall.

Someone who is avoidant very well could have been taught to avoid conflict from their family.  Stonewalling, a form of avoidance, is an unhealthy way of avoiding conflict.  It is not communicating.  Many people develop this dysfunctional coping mechanism from their families.  It is basically being very obvious about not talking.

Another unhealthy way of coping with conflict in family is “sweeping it under the rug.”  This is when a point of conflict arises and no one addresses it. Because of this, there is a lack of genuineness and authenticity demonstrated in the family. So many people are holding back how they feel about things that they truly can’t bond as a family. 

Unspoken Rules

Unspoken Rules

When this occurs, years of “unspoken rules” accumulate.  Unspoken rules are the points of conflict that a family intentionally avoids. This creates further emotional distance among the family members. 

If your significant other is avoiding family it is important to understand the reason behind it.  It’s also important to recognize any avoidance you may have with your own family. 

Don’t Use “Why” Questions

Don’t Use “Why” Questions

When trying to understand why your significant other avoids family, it’s important how you talk about it. Using “why” questions may raise defenses.  Rather, it’s more productive to make observations such as “I’ve noticed that you don’t seem to want to spend time with such and such.” 

Be prepared to see this conversation not as just one discussion, but possibly a series of conversations as sometimes these topics are hot button issues and many times have deep-seated emotions involved. It can take a while for the person experiencing this to process all of these emotions and insights so it may take more than one conversation for them to get through it all. 

When someone avoids family because of toxicity, it’s important to know why.  That’s why the “I’ve noticed that you don’t want to spend time with such and such” conversation is important. You need to be aware of the boundaries, otherwise, they are walls. 

It’s important that if someone comes from a toxic family and are trying to create healthy boundaries, that the boundaries have been clearly articulated. Otherwise, more drama occurs as the family has no clue as to why a family member is avoiding them. 

2.  DEPENDENT

If your significant other does not have a job, still lives at home, and has no license, they are in many ways like they were in middle school.  It does not bode well for their emotional maturity, or their preparedness for a serious, adult relationship. Why should they be entering into potentially a legal and spiritual relationship (marriage) with someone if they are not responsible for themselves?

A terrible problem to acquire is marrying someone who thinks that you are going to take care of them.  If their parents have enabled them to be irresponsible and immature then they very well will expect you to treat them as their parents have. 

Magical Thinking?

Magical Thinking

Many times this immaturity or lack of responsibility can be seen through what therapists call “magical thinking.” This type of thinking is not realistic. Laura uses an example from the movie “Field of Dreams.”  The famous quote, “If you build it, they will come” can be exemplified by people who start businesses thinking that people will seek out their product or service without any efforts at marketing.

Magical thinking when you’re dealing with someone who is emotionally immature and irresponsible could look like someone who just expects to have the bills paid, food available and roof over their head without having to do any of it themselves.  

Magical thinking is especially troubling when it translates to romantic relationships, as one expects another to fulfill a fantasy that is unrealistic.  This could mean someone expects to have a home and a family without the work and responsibilities behind it. These days, that often means living at home with their parents as a married couple. 

Other Red Flags

Red flags that your significant other is too reliant on their parents:  They may not have transportation (able to get to and from places without mom or dad). Are they intentional about paying rent to their parents?, Do they rely on their parents solely for socialization? Are they able to make phone calls for themselves?  Fill out paperwork? 

It is important to note that some people who avoid making phone calls are experiencing social anxiety. Make the observation, “I’ve noticed that when it’s time to call in the pizza order you pass the phone to me.”  Avoiding making carry-out orders is not necessarily a deal-breaker, but it is important that you address this concern with your significant other. 

Switching gears, what if your significant other is too involved with a troubled family member? Is it possible that your significant other is enabling that person?  Do they have difficulty saying ‘no’ to people? Your significant other may have assertiveness issues.  

3.  Healthy Relationship

No one is completely 100% healthy in all areas.   When you are looking at a significant other and trying to determine if they have a healthy relationship with family, ask yourself:  Can this person have a healthy, adult conversation with their parents?  Are they able to resolve conflict in a healthy way?  Being part of a family that “doesn’t fight” means that they avoid conflict and are not able to resolve issues in a healthy manner. 

Are they able to say that their feelings are hurt? Are they assertive—speaking the truth in love, in a calm and relaxed manner without putting the other person down?

Low Emotional Environment (LEE)

Low Emotional Environment

What kind of environment does their family create emotionally?  A HEE (High Emotional Environment” is volatile and often has family members walking on egg shells. A Low Emotional Environment (LEE) is relaxed, and allows room for people to share their feelings during conflict without being met with aggression or chaos.   A LEE is not reactive, but proactive. It’s a safe emotional environment. 

What if family is forced together due to family business, terminal illness situations, living at parents’ home temporarily, etc.?

It is important for people to be able to switch gears and not always be doing family things together.  There needs to be a life outside of family to create balance. 

Purposeful Plan

If the living arrangement is living with the parents, clear communication needs to occur.  The purpose of living there needs to be spelled out.  There needs to be a plan, rather than parents allowing the person to stay there willy-nilly without expectations and an exit strategy discussed and planned with all parties. 

There needs to be an arrangement of how the person will help with rent and household duties. How will they make sure that they do not remain in this situation? 

Conclusion 

If you’re a parent, someone who is in the dating field, someone considering dating, or what have you, we hope that you have found today’s episode enlightening.  Be sure to tune in next time as we discuss the fifth part of our series “Eight Signs You Might Need to Break Up.”

 

067 Dating: How Do They Treat Wait Staff?

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Welcome to the third part of our series “Eight Warning Signs You Might Need to Break Up.”  Regardless of whether you are in a serious dating relationship or not, today’s message shines light on people’s character and what we do with what we see others do, which is important.  As with other episodes in this series, parents will also receive good tips, as this series addresses warning signs, which should be helpful as parents help their teens and young adults navigate the dating world. 

Vincent and Laura are therapists, and often work with those entering the dating world.  Vincent describes how many times when someone is “in love” they overlook important things. (Be sure to check our episode 064 “The Psychology of Love” to learn more about how we fall in love.) 

A Character Test?

Today we look at a true character test:  How they treat wait staff or service people.  Although this may seem to be a very specific quality, it is very telling as to how they will treat their potential significant other.  This test of their character is a window into how they may be when they let their guard down.

There is a sense of familiarity and complacency that can occur in marriage and often times spouses get taken advantage of.  If you notice some of the negative behaviors mentioned today, it may be a warning sign that the person you are dating could be trouble as a spouse.

3 Behaviors to Pay Attention To

1. Attitude Towards Service People – Those Who Are Helping You

What Is Their Attitude Toward Service People?

What is their attitude like with those serving them? Do they have manners?  Say “please” and “thank you?” This applies to wait staff, mechanics, the cable company, internet service providers, etc. How do they treat these people in person AND on the phone? Do they treat others like REAL, breathing human beings?

Do they express gratitude towards those offering their service?  Do they come across as egotistical and better than the person helping them? Do they have a sense of entitlement about the service they are receiving?

Do they seem to value the people they are receiving service from?  (it sends the message that they do not value others who do things for them & may not show that they value you when you do this in the future.)

What Does This Say About Their Future Parenting?

Not only are these behaviors clues to how a person will behave as a spouse, but they also speak to how someone will be as a parent. If the person you’re dating is unable to be patient with waitstaff or other service people, how will they parent a fussy toddler?

Does the person you’re dating show that they are empathetic to waitstaff?  If not, how does that bode for this person to be a future parent?  NOTHING REQUIRES MORE EMPATHY THAN MARRIAGE OR PARENTHOOD!

2. Attitude Towards Those in Authority—People Who Require Them to Submit or Do Things

What Is Their Attitude Toward Those In Authority?

People in authority range anywhere from a police officer to anyone who places you in the position of having to do something (fill out paperwork, etc.) Examine how your significant other interacts with people who require something of them.

If they do not respond well, it may show you that they are not teachable, resistant and unwilling.What does this say about someone who could be a future spouse and/or parent? NOTHING MORE THAN MARRIAGE AND PARENTHOOD REQUIRES SOMEONE TO BE FLEXIBLE. 

When someone is unbendable, they are not submitting to God and do not seek brokenness. These people do not have a broken and contrite heart. In Ephesians Paul says that when you get married you submit to one another.  Vincent feels that this means that we are to be “teachable”. 

Are You Taking Course 101 of Your Partner?

Laura mentions how in their marriage Vincent should be taking “Laura 101” and that she should be taking “Vincent 101,” but also that she should be taking “Laura 101” and Vincent should be taking “Vincent 101.”  We are to be students of each other, but we should also study ourselves to recognize and work on our own weaknesses. The challenges of marriage are God’s way of “bending us to each other.” 

Another important aspect of your significant other’s behavior is how respectful they are towards others in authority.  Are they respectful to their parents?  Their elders? 

If you are with someone struggling with authority, they will have difficulty being a parent themselves. They will struggle with being in a position of authority and will have difficulty modeling healthy respect of authorities. Are you prepared to enter a marriage/parenthood with a person who does not model healthy respect to authority? 

Do they listen to other’s ideas or points of view?  How open are they to listen to differing opinions?

Vincent and Laura explain how Relationship Helpers aims at helping people to be proactive in their lives.  As therapists, they often see the ramifications of people not being intentional as they enter into relationships, and have the uphill battle of trying to change unhealthy behaviors that have lasted for a long time.  Their goal is to help people recognize their blindspots and to develop new skills in personal growth and with relationships. 

3. Do They Flirt or Behave Too Friendly to Service People 

Do They Flirt or Behave Too Friendly to Service People?

This is the most obvious problem behavior that Vincent and Laura discuss in today’s episode.  Do they behave too friendly with co-workers or people in authority? 

Vincent and Laura often encounter clients who are struggling because a spouse is too friendly at church. Many times people are a little too “touchy feely” during the meet and greet time during service, or hug someone a little too long.   This applies to pastors, too.

What does this say about their boundaries? It can communicate an area of vulnerability in your relationship that “users” can take advantage of.  A lingering hug at church can cause tension in a relationship as one accuses the other of being too close with someone and the other then responds with “What was I supposed to do?” Justifying the behavior because they did not initiate it. They are not setting a boundary. 

Vincent gives an example of someone who was in counseling because his wife was complaining about his flirtatious behavior.  The lights did not really come on for this person until someone who did not know him compared him to a notorious flirt at the office. 

He felt convicted when this colleague basically affirmed what his wife had been saying all along.  Sometimes we don’t listen to people closest to us, and receive real revelations when we hear from those we are not so close to. 

Loose Boundaries Can Lead To Affairs…

Sometimes these loose boundaries result in affairs.  Many times emotional affairs. Those who have affairs often are passive and people-pleasers and are being manipulated by users. They may not be willing to make a stand on their own physical, personal boundaries. 

Vincent gives the example of someone at work who goes into another person’s office and shuts the door and stays in there for an hour.  To those co-workers on the outside, it creates fodder for the gossip mill which could make it to the other spouse and hurt their relationship.  Nothing may have happened in the office, BUT loose boundaries were in place which is a cause for alarm.  It also communicates a lack of respect for the relationship. 

Some people with loose boundaries are passive, but others can be aggressive.  Be aware of your significant other’s boundaries.  Are they passive or aggressive about it? 

Conclusion

Hopefully, today’s episode has been helpful in looking at some things you’ve never thought about before.  Consider the questions today and how they apply to your relationship.  Be sure to tune in next week as we delve into our next warning sign that you may need to break up!

066 Dating: Do You Share the Same Values and Beliefs?

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Today’s episode marks the second part in an eight part series, “Eight Warning Signs You Might Need to Break Up.”  In this episode we discuss a potentially polarizing subject, differing values and belief systems. As with all episodes in this particular series, we are addressing those who are DATING, not those who are married. 

Robertson McQuilkin: Honoring His Vows

Laura begins with the story of Robertson McQuilkin. He was the president of Columbia International University, in Columbia SC. His father was the original president of the school and imparted a legacy upon him.  During his presidency, he wrote several books. 

Mr. McQuilkin did something pretty radical, he left his post at the school eight years shy of his retirement to care for his wife, Muriel, who was suffering from Alzheimer’s.  She had become intensely fearful if he left her side. In an interview with Christianity Today, he said:  

“When the time came, the decision was firm. It took no great calculation. It was a matter of integrity. Had I not promised, 42 years before, ‘in sickness and in health . . . till death do us part’?

This was no grim duty to which I stoically resigned, however. It was only fair. She had, after all, cared for me for almost four decades with marvelous devotion;   now it was my turn. And such a partner she was! If I took care of her for 40 years, I would never be out of her debt.”

Vincent regales of a time spent on a mission trip in Africa when he first heard of Columbia International University.  Ironically, the school was only two hours away from his home, but he had not heard of it until his time in Kenya.  He met some missionaries from England who told him about the school.

How Intentional Are You?

Robertson McQuilkin led an intentional life.  What about you?  If you’re dating, are you seeking out someone with similar values?  Do you have values, and if so, are searching for someone who is intentionally living out values that you share?  

Does the person you date identify as a Christian, or do they live it out? What does it mean?  Because it means different things to different people, it is important to have an ongoing discussion about faith, values, and beliefs. 

It can be easy to fall into the trap of dating a good-looking person who identifies with a belief system without really knowing what they truly stand for.

Questions to Consider Before Getting Serious

Do They Share The Same Beliefs?

1. Beliefs—What is their faith?  Do they have faith? If Christian, what does that mean (and what does being Christian mean to you?) 

2. Relationship with Jesus, with Holy Spirit, and God?

3. What is their prayer life like?

4. Are they obedient to the Word? 

5. Do you see disciplines of the faith in them?

6. Do they believe in the Apostles Creed?

7. What is their church life like? (How often do they attend to church?  What’s their commitment level?)

Are They a Mature Christian? How Committed Are They?

Vincent discusses how mature Christians know the Bible well, but also pray prayers asking for God’s guidance, rather than just making what he calls “genie prayers.”  He describes how he matured in faith by reading through the entire Bible as a young adult and participating in deep group bible studies.  He also studied other religions to compare and to learn the difference. 

Laura mentions that mature Christians view marriage more as a covenant, not as a contract.  This shows how serious they are to their promises to God and to their spouse.  One’s relationship with God influences their relationship with their spouse, and also speaks to their level of commitment.

New Life Summit by the American Association of Christian Counselors

Vincent and Laura attended the New Life Summit this past weekend held by the American Association of Christian Counselors. During a plenary session, Dr. Jared Pingleton spoke about the idea of covenantal marriage. Many Americans see marriage as a legal matter; a piece of paper.

In his book, “Making Magnificent Marriages”, Dr. Pingleton provides ten different distinctions between contractual and covenantal marriage. A contract is meant to protect people, in essence, the clauses of it are delineated to protect yourself because of expected failure. 

A covenant, however, is a promise between two people, God and to the witnesses of the wedding ceremony. Robertson McQuilkin’s choices surrounding staying by his wife’s side was his way of living out his vows.

Laura mentions how the current average cost of a wedding is over $30,000 and how that is a lot of attention spent on ONE DAY versus a lifetime. Essentially a lot of effort and money is placed on a big party, but what does marriage really mean?

What Is Their Commitment To Their Friends & Family?

What Is Their Commitment To Family And Friends?

Another thing to consider is how does your significant other interact with co-workers, family and friends?  This person’s commitment to and relationship with others speaks to how they will treat you.

Are you open to other’s opinions of your dating this person?  It’s important to remember that we are biased by our hormones when we are newly dating someone.  Another person’s point of view may prove invaluable. 

Could they be a part of a cult?

Could They Be Part Of A Cult?

It’s not enough to KNOW scripture.  Satan KNOWS scripture.  How do they use scripture?  What is the intent?  

If you investigate their background and find it questionable, you may find cult influences bleeding into your relationship.  Many Christian cults have a strong, patriarchal bend.  This could play out in a more abusive way towards women. 

Do they value family?

How do they view community?  What are their ethics?

Vincent mentions a discussion that occurred in Sunday School about how some families in Nepal barter their children.  This may be rare in the United States, but it is important to consider how your significant other values family.

How honest are they?

How Honest Are They?

Do they have integrity?  How forthright are they?

Are they honest with their taxes?  Do they cheat on their time clocks at work?  Are they involved in shady business deals? Do they hide things from their customers?

How do they talk about their workplace to you?  How do they talk about other people to you? How they treat others is a good indicator of how they will treat you.  Do they keep their passcodes hidden from you? 

Be sure to reference episode 022 “Should Snoop On My Spouse’s Phone” to learn the importance of transparency in relationships. 

The apps someone has on their phone tells you about their values.  What a person does on their phone is a window to their world.

Do they value education and learning?

Is education important to you?  If so, do you need to be in relationship with someone who values education and/or learning? Ideally, you would want to be with someone who wants to grow.

How do they view fitness and/or wellbeing?

How Do They View Fitness?

How do they treat their body?  What does this mean about their views of the future? If you plan on marrying, consider what this means when you “become one.” Their views on wellbeing also speaks to their self-worth. 

How do they view finances?

Jesus spoke about many times about money.  How someone views it speaks to the condition of their heart.  

Does your significant other treat money as a status symbol?  Are they disciplined with money? Do they save enough?  Too much?  

Do they intend on having separate accounts if you get married?  What does this mean?  Are you on the same team, or is this a protective measure because one of you has unhealthy spending habits?

Stewardships—What are they doing with the stuff they have?  

Do they share with others? How well do they take care of their possessions, home, etc.  How do they manage their belongings? Do they take care of what God has gifted them with?  Do they tithe?

In Charles Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol”, we see an example of stewardship gone wrong.  Three ghosts appear to Ebenezer Scrooge to illuminate the dark parts of his heart, helping him see how his miserly behavior withheld helping others close to him. 

Conclusion

Before you get too far into the dating process, talk in-depth about these questions.  You will learn a lot about your significant other’s heart by a frank, open discussion on these matters.  Many couples do not discuss these issues and it causes conflict later.  Don’t count on the feeling of being in love to carry your relationship through. 

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